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		<title>Comment on Chess can be a Game of Luck by Gil Kalai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gil Kalai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 09:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There were interesting discussions on this matter in various forums and let me quote one participant, Yaacov Bergman:

The Misnah disqualifies dice gamblers from giving testimony in court. The rationale given is that they are not participating in building the world. In fact, the NET TOTAL contribution of their activity to the building of the world is negative; not in expectation, but non-randomly negative. 

This might be the rationale for the modern law against playing chance games (not because the expectation is negative to one side and positive to the other side).

Therefore: poker - out, stock market – in; because playing it helps build the world, albeit  capitalistically.

See the attached file (in Hebrew), copied from 
http://www.daat.ac.il/daat/kitveyet/sde_chem/samuel.htm &quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There were interesting discussions on this matter in various forums and let me quote one participant, Yaacov Bergman:</p>
<p>The Misnah disqualifies dice gamblers from giving testimony in court. The rationale given is that they are not participating in building the world. In fact, the NET TOTAL contribution of their activity to the building of the world is negative; not in expectation, but non-randomly negative. </p>
<p>This might be the rationale for the modern law against playing chance games (not because the expectation is negative to one side and positive to the other side).</p>
<p>Therefore: poker &#8211; out, stock market – in; because playing it helps build the world, albeit  capitalistically.</p>
<p>See the attached file (in Hebrew), copied from<br />
<a href="http://www.daat.ac.il/daat/kitveyet/sde_chem/samuel.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.daat.ac.il/daat/kitveyet/sde_chem/samuel.htm</a> &#8220;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Test Your Intuition (7) by Gil Kalai</title>
		<link>http://gilkalai.wordpress.com/2009/07/08/test-your-intuition-7/#comment-2069</link>
		<dc:creator>Gil Kalai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 09:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The relation with the &lt;a href=&quot;http://gilkalai.wordpress.com/2009/07/05/chess-can-be-a-game-of-luck/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;post on games of luck&lt;/a&gt; is this: if you have a pure game of luck, like the one in the present post, where the odds depends on your previous performences, a group of &quot;professional players&quot; can emerge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The relation with the <a href="http://gilkalai.wordpress.com/2009/07/05/chess-can-be-a-game-of-luck/" rel="nofollow">post on games of luck</a> is this: if you have a pure game of luck, like the one in the present post, where the odds depends on your previous performences, a group of &#8220;professional players&#8221; can emerge.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Test Your Intuition (7) by chengiz</title>
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		<dc:creator>chengiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 01:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s my attempt:

Let us say at any point there are w white and b black balls. The probability of picking a white ball here is:

p_w  = w/(w+b).

For the next pick,

p_w+ = p_w (w+1)/(w+b+1) + (1-p_w) w/(w+b+1),

where the two terms denote whether you have a white or black ball next round. If you expand that out,

p_w+ = w/(w+b)

So the probability is constant and since we started off with 1 w and 1 b, it remains at 0.5.

Thus the chances of having 80% white balls over time is the same as the probability of having 80% heads in coin tosses over time. As N tends to infinity the probability tends to 0.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s my attempt:</p>
<p>Let us say at any point there are w white and b black balls. The probability of picking a white ball here is:</p>
<p>p_w  = w/(w+b).</p>
<p>For the next pick,</p>
<p>p_w+ = p_w (w+1)/(w+b+1) + (1-p_w) w/(w+b+1),</p>
<p>where the two terms denote whether you have a white or black ball next round. If you expand that out,</p>
<p>p_w+ = w/(w+b)</p>
<p>So the probability is constant and since we started off with 1 w and 1 b, it remains at 0.5.</p>
<p>Thus the chances of having 80% white balls over time is the same as the probability of having 80% heads in coin tosses over time. As N tends to infinity the probability tends to 0.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Test Your Intuition (7) by Matías Giovannini</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matías Giovannini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 13:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems I made a mistake in my simulation... David Speyer got it right, it seems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems I made a mistake in my simulation&#8230; David Speyer got it right, it seems.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Test Your Intuition (10): How Does &#8220;Random Noise&#8221; Look Like. by proaonuiq</title>
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		<dc:creator>proaonuiq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 13:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This &quot;Math Overflow&quot; site is great ! The design is close to perfect. I like the votes and views statistics, the tags and users rankings etc... 

As an sporadic blog commenter i miss this kind of stuff in blogs. You have not information about your audience nor if your comments are abhored or loved (although you can imagine).   

I´m surprised by how low digital flavoured subjects (computer science science related topics) as computational complexity are ranked. The hotest topic up to now seems to be algebraic geometry. We must wait and see how the ranking &quot;evolves&quot;.   

Thanks for the pointer !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This &#8220;Math Overflow&#8221; site is great ! The design is close to perfect. I like the votes and views statistics, the tags and users rankings etc&#8230; </p>
<p>As an sporadic blog commenter i miss this kind of stuff in blogs. You have not information about your audience nor if your comments are abhored or loved (although you can imagine).   </p>
<p>I´m surprised by how low digital flavoured subjects (computer science science related topics) as computational complexity are ranked. The hotest topic up to now seems to be algebraic geometry. We must wait and see how the ranking &#8220;evolves&#8221;.   </p>
<p>Thanks for the pointer !</p>
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		<title>Comment on Test Your Intuition (7) by Matías Giovannini</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matías Giovannini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 12:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Using Random Walk theory as a ready-made result, as dodmoshe suggests, leads me to think that the probability is 50%. As v8r explains in their first post, I think the result is overwhelmingly dominated by the first choice. A Monte Carlo simulation supports my intuition, and I trust my computer more than I do my brain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Using Random Walk theory as a ready-made result, as dodmoshe suggests, leads me to think that the probability is 50%. As v8r explains in their first post, I think the result is overwhelmingly dominated by the first choice. A Monte Carlo simulation supports my intuition, and I trust my computer more than I do my brain.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Test Your Intuition (10): How Does &#8220;Random Noise&#8221; Look Like. by Gil Kalai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gil Kalai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 06:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear v8r, certainly a Bernouli noise which acts independently on each bit is an important example. The question is: Does a typical random example of noise behaves like Bernouli noise?

(For simplicity we can assume that t is a small constant.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear v8r, certainly a Bernouli noise which acts independently on each bit is an important example. The question is: Does a typical random example of noise behaves like Bernouli noise?</p>
<p>(For simplicity we can assume that t is a small constant.)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Test Your Intuition (10): How Does &#8220;Random Noise&#8221; Look Like. by v8r</title>
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		<dc:creator>v8r</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can $t$ depend on $n$? Suppose it does not. Then we can define the Bernoulli noise. Each bit is flipped with prob. $t$. So typicalally n(1-t) bits are not affected. 
More bits are affected with smaller prob.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can $t$ depend on $n$? Suppose it does not. Then we can define the Bernoulli noise. Each bit is flipped with prob. $t$. So typicalally n(1-t) bits are not affected.<br />
More bits are affected with smaller prob.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Test Your Intuition (2) by Test Your Intuition (10): How Does &#8220;Random Noise&#8221; Look Like. &#171; Combinatorics and more</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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