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		<title>Comment on Arrow&#8217;s Economics 1 by Gil</title>
		<link>http://gilkalai.wordpress.com/2008/07/15/arrows-economics-1/#comment-211</link>
		<dc:creator>Gil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Elad, there is a paper by Hart and Tauman oferring an explanation to Stock market's bubbles and sudden collapses which is close in spirit to issues of common knowledge. You can find it here: http://www.ma.huji.ac.il/~hart/abs/crash.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Elad, there is a paper by Hart and Tauman oferring an explanation to Stock market&#8217;s bubbles and sudden collapses which is close in spirit to issues of common knowledge. You can find it here: <a href="http://www.ma.huji.ac.il/~hart/abs/crash.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ma.huji.ac.il/~hart/abs/crash.html</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Cosmonaut: Michal Linial by Michal Linial - An Ambassador in Singapore &#171; Combinatorics and more</title>
		<link>http://gilkalai.wordpress.com/2008/06/30/cosmonaut-michal-linial/#comment-207</link>
		<dc:creator>Michal Linial - An Ambassador in Singapore &#171; Combinatorics and more</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the wonderful &#8220;being a cosmonaut&#8221; taxi-story, I am happy to present [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Extremal Combinatorics I: Extremal Problems on Set Systems by Extermal Combinatorics II: Some Geometry and Number Theory &#171; Combinatorics and more</title>
		<link>http://gilkalai.wordpress.com/2008/05/01/extremal-combinatorics-i/#comment-205</link>
		<dc:creator>Extermal Combinatorics II: Some Geometry and Number Theory &#171; Combinatorics and more</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] first lecture dealt with extremal problems for families of sets. In this lecture we will consider extremal [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Arrow&#8217;s Economics 1 by elad verbin</title>
		<link>http://gilkalai.wordpress.com/2008/07/15/arrows-economics-1/#comment-204</link>
		<dc:creator>elad verbin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting puzzles. About puzzle 2: the obvious guess would be that it's an issue related to what Sociologists call &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_knowledge_(logic)" rel="nofollow"&gt;Common Knowledge&lt;/a&gt; versus other kinds of knowledge. Once someone sells a stock, the other people assume that he has a good reason for selling, so they sell, and then others sell, and so on. The process stops when the price is low enough to make people be willing to take the risk of staying with the stock, even though there's a bad feeling in the air about it. 

Can this kind of intuition be theoretically formalized in a reasonable way? It seems like an interdisciplinary study might be necessary, since we're dealing with an effect which is no less sociological than mathematical. Do game theorists do these kind of things successfully? I know the notion of common knowledge is developed and used in the game-theory literature (Aumann, Milgrom,...), but does the formalization describe reality in a satisfactory manner? My intuition is that in order to understand the behavior of the stock market, sociological tools must be applied.

About issues related to common knowledge, one reference I particularly like is Steven Pinker's paper, &lt;a href="http://pinker.wjh.harvard.edu/articles/papers/PNAS%20Logic%20of%20Indirect%20Speech.pdf" rel="nofollow"&gt;The Logic of Indirect Speech&lt;/a&gt;. (Also see the blog (in Hebrew) &lt;a href="http://www.sciencefriction.net/blog/2008/05/28/107/" rel="nofollow"&gt;מדע בזיוני&lt;/a&gt;).

For completeness, here's an excerpt from the Pinker paper mentioned above, where he gives a brief description of what common knowledge means (page 5; references are available in Pinker's paper):

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[...] a concept that linguists, logicians, and economists have called common knowledge, mutual knowledge, and common ground (2,9,
25–30). In common knowledge, not only does A know x and B knows x, but A knows that B knows x,and B knows that A knows x, and A knows that B knows that A knows x, ad infinitum. As with other phenomena in linguistics in which a person is said to ‘‘know’’ an infinite number of things, the knowledge is not enumerated as an infinite list, of course, but is implicit in a finite recursive formula. In this case, it could be the formula y:
‘‘Everyone knows x, and everyone knows y’’(2). Moreover, common knowledge can be ascertained perceptually, by observing that x is perceptible or broadcasted in public circumstances.

The paradigm illustration of common knowledge is the story of the Emperor’s New Clothes. When the boy called out,
‘‘The emperor is naked!’’ he was not telling the onlookers anything they didn’t already know. Yet he was conveying knowledge nonetheless: Now everyone knew that everyone else knew, and that everyone else knew that they knew, and soon, and that common knowledge licensed the people to challenge the dominance relationship commanded by the emperor. The moral for the present theory is that language is an efficient way of generating common knowledge.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting puzzles. About puzzle 2: the obvious guess would be that it&#8217;s an issue related to what Sociologists call <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_knowledge_(logic)" rel="nofollow">Common Knowledge</a> versus other kinds of knowledge. Once someone sells a stock, the other people assume that he has a good reason for selling, so they sell, and then others sell, and so on. The process stops when the price is low enough to make people be willing to take the risk of staying with the stock, even though there&#8217;s a bad feeling in the air about it. </p>
<p>Can this kind of intuition be theoretically formalized in a reasonable way? It seems like an interdisciplinary study might be necessary, since we&#8217;re dealing with an effect which is no less sociological than mathematical. Do game theorists do these kind of things successfully? I know the notion of common knowledge is developed and used in the game-theory literature (Aumann, Milgrom,&#8230;), but does the formalization describe reality in a satisfactory manner? My intuition is that in order to understand the behavior of the stock market, sociological tools must be applied.</p>
<p>About issues related to common knowledge, one reference I particularly like is Steven Pinker&#8217;s paper, <a href="http://pinker.wjh.harvard.edu/articles/papers/PNAS%20Logic%20of%20Indirect%20Speech.pdf" rel="nofollow">The Logic of Indirect Speech</a>. (Also see the blog (in Hebrew) <a href="http://www.sciencefriction.net/blog/2008/05/28/107/" rel="nofollow">מדע בזיוני</a>).</p>
<p>For completeness, here&#8217;s an excerpt from the Pinker paper mentioned above, where he gives a brief description of what common knowledge means (page 5; references are available in Pinker&#8217;s paper):</p>
<p>&#8221;<br />
[...] a concept that linguists, logicians, and economists have called common knowledge, mutual knowledge, and common ground (2,9,<br />
25–30). In common knowledge, not only does A know x and B knows x, but A knows that B knows x,and B knows that A knows x, and A knows that B knows that A knows x, ad infinitum. As with other phenomena in linguistics in which a person is said to ‘‘know’’ an infinite number of things, the knowledge is not enumerated as an infinite list, of course, but is implicit in a finite recursive formula. In this case, it could be the formula y:<br />
‘‘Everyone knows x, and everyone knows y’’(2). Moreover, common knowledge can be ascertained perceptually, by observing that x is perceptible or broadcasted in public circumstances.</p>
<p>The paradigm illustration of common knowledge is the story of the Emperor’s New Clothes. When the boy called out,<br />
‘‘The emperor is naked!’’ he was not telling the onlookers anything they didn’t already know. Yet he was conveying knowledge nonetheless: Now everyone knew that everyone else knew, and that everyone else knew that they knew, and soon, and that common knowledge licensed the people to challenge the dominance relationship commanded by the emperor. The moral for the present theory is that language is an efficient way of generating common knowledge.<br />
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		<title>Comment on Cosmonaut: Michal Linial by Gil</title>
		<link>http://gilkalai.wordpress.com/2008/06/30/cosmonaut-michal-linial/#comment-203</link>
		<dc:creator>Gil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 18:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Michal, 
your other taxi-and-other-stories are most welcomed on this blog! (still waiting for the heads-eating-story.) Too bad I cannot put a video of them being told. (On second thought, this may be possible as well... )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Michal,<br />
your other taxi-and-other-stories are most welcomed on this blog! (still waiting for the heads-eating-story.) Too bad I cannot put a video of them being told. (On second thought, this may be possible as well&#8230; )</p>
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		<title>Comment on Helly, Cayley, Hypertrees, and Weighted Enumeration III by Gil Kalai</title>
		<link>http://gilkalai.wordpress.com/2008/07/03/helly-cayley-hypertrees-and-weighted-enumeration-iii/#comment-202</link>
		<dc:creator>Gil Kalai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Richard, many thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Richard, many thanks!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cosmonaut: Michal Linial by Michal Linial</title>
		<link>http://gilkalai.wordpress.com/2008/06/30/cosmonaut-michal-linial/#comment-201</link>
		<dc:creator>Michal Linial</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I looked for some lost paper of mine and found Gil's blog so Google suggest that it is better than any of my papers from 2008. It made me really happy. Gil -you are welcome to put the other Taxi story in this self promoting publication mode...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I looked for some lost paper of mine and found Gil&#8217;s blog so Google suggest that it is better than any of my papers from 2008. It made me really happy. Gil -you are welcome to put the other Taxi story in this self promoting publication mode&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Helly, Cayley, Hypertrees, and Weighted Enumeration III by Richard Stanley</title>
		<link>http://gilkalai.wordpress.com/2008/07/03/helly-cayley-hypertrees-and-weighted-enumeration-iii/#comment-200</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Stanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 02:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gil asks about saving MacMahon's conjecture on space (or solid) partitions using subtle weights. If the weights are allowed to be subtle enough then there is an answer of sorts. The enumeration of plane partitions follows from the Cauchy identity

 $latex  \sum s_\lambda(x)s_\lambda(y) = \prod_{i,j\geq 1}  (1 - x_i y_j)^{-1}$

for Schur functions. We substitute $latex x_i=q^{i-1}$ and $latex y_i=q^i$ to get MacMahon's generating function on the right. On the left we get pairs of weighted tableaux that can be merged into a plane partition. (This proof is due to Bender and Knuth.) It is not unreasonable to replace the right-hand side by 

$latex  \prod_{i,j,k\geq 1}(1 - x_i y_j z_k)^{-1}.$

If we set $latex x_i=y_i=q^{i-1}$ and $latex z_i=q^i$ then we get MacMahon's incorrect conjectured generating function for solid partitions. What about the left-hand side? If we expand in terms of Schur functions we get

 $latex \sum_{\lambda,\mu,\nu} g_{\lambda,\mu,\nu} s_\lambda(x) s_\mu(y) s_\nu(z),$ 

where $latex g_{\lambda,\mu,\nu}$ is the notoriously intractable "Kronecker coefficient," i.e., the multiplicity of the irreducible character $latex \chi^\lambda$ of $latex S_n$ in the tensor (or pointwise) product of $latex \chi^\mu$ and $latex \chi^\nu$. Thus solid partitions are replaced by certain triples of tableaux weighted by $latex g_{\lambda,\mu,\nu}$. This is probably too subtle for most people's taste, especially since we don't end up with any kind of solid partition. However, it is a rather natural extension of the elegant proof of Bender and Knuth and suggests why solid partitions may remain forever intractable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gil asks about saving MacMahon&#8217;s conjecture on space (or solid) partitions using subtle weights. If the weights are allowed to be subtle enough then there is an answer of sorts. The enumeration of plane partitions follows from the Cauchy identity</p>
<p> <img src='http://l.wordpress.com/latex.php?latex=+%5Csum+s_%5Clambda%28x%29s_%5Clambda%28y%29+%3D+%5Cprod_%7Bi%2Cj%5Cgeq+1%7D++%281+-+x_i+y_j%29%5E%7B-1%7D&amp;bg=ffffff&amp;fg=000000&amp;s=0' alt=' \sum s_\lambda(x)s_\lambda(y) = \prod_{i,j\geq 1}  (1 - x_i y_j)^{-1}' title=' \sum s_\lambda(x)s_\lambda(y) = \prod_{i,j\geq 1}  (1 - x_i y_j)^{-1}' class='latex' /></p>
<p>for Schur functions. We substitute <img src='http://l.wordpress.com/latex.php?latex=x_i%3Dq%5E%7Bi-1%7D&amp;bg=ffffff&amp;fg=000000&amp;s=0' alt='x_i=q^{i-1}' title='x_i=q^{i-1}' class='latex' /> and <img src='http://l.wordpress.com/latex.php?latex=y_i%3Dq%5Ei&amp;bg=ffffff&amp;fg=000000&amp;s=0' alt='y_i=q^i' title='y_i=q^i' class='latex' /> to get MacMahon&#8217;s generating function on the right. On the left we get pairs of weighted tableaux that can be merged into a plane partition. (This proof is due to Bender and Knuth.) It is not unreasonable to replace the right-hand side by </p>
<p><img src='http://l.wordpress.com/latex.php?latex=+%5Cprod_%7Bi%2Cj%2Ck%5Cgeq+1%7D%281+-+x_i+y_j+z_k%29%5E%7B-1%7D.&amp;bg=ffffff&amp;fg=000000&amp;s=0' alt=' \prod_{i,j,k\geq 1}(1 - x_i y_j z_k)^{-1}.' title=' \prod_{i,j,k\geq 1}(1 - x_i y_j z_k)^{-1}.' class='latex' /></p>
<p>If we set <img src='http://l.wordpress.com/latex.php?latex=x_i%3Dy_i%3Dq%5E%7Bi-1%7D&amp;bg=ffffff&amp;fg=000000&amp;s=0' alt='x_i=y_i=q^{i-1}' title='x_i=y_i=q^{i-1}' class='latex' /> and <img src='http://l.wordpress.com/latex.php?latex=z_i%3Dq%5Ei&amp;bg=ffffff&amp;fg=000000&amp;s=0' alt='z_i=q^i' title='z_i=q^i' class='latex' /> then we get MacMahon&#8217;s incorrect conjectured generating function for solid partitions. What about the left-hand side? If we expand in terms of Schur functions we get</p>
<p> <img src='http://l.wordpress.com/latex.php?latex=%5Csum_%7B%5Clambda%2C%5Cmu%2C%5Cnu%7D+g_%7B%5Clambda%2C%5Cmu%2C%5Cnu%7D+s_%5Clambda%28x%29+s_%5Cmu%28y%29+s_%5Cnu%28z%29%2C&amp;bg=ffffff&amp;fg=000000&amp;s=0' alt='\sum_{\lambda,\mu,\nu} g_{\lambda,\mu,\nu} s_\lambda(x) s_\mu(y) s_\nu(z),' title='\sum_{\lambda,\mu,\nu} g_{\lambda,\mu,\nu} s_\lambda(x) s_\mu(y) s_\nu(z),' class='latex' /> </p>
<p>where <img src='http://l.wordpress.com/latex.php?latex=g_%7B%5Clambda%2C%5Cmu%2C%5Cnu%7D&amp;bg=ffffff&amp;fg=000000&amp;s=0' alt='g_{\lambda,\mu,\nu}' title='g_{\lambda,\mu,\nu}' class='latex' /> is the notoriously intractable &#8220;Kronecker coefficient,&#8221; i.e., the multiplicity of the irreducible character <img src='http://l.wordpress.com/latex.php?latex=%5Cchi%5E%5Clambda&amp;bg=ffffff&amp;fg=000000&amp;s=0' alt='\chi^\lambda' title='\chi^\lambda' class='latex' /> of <img src='http://l.wordpress.com/latex.php?latex=S_n&amp;bg=ffffff&amp;fg=000000&amp;s=0' alt='S_n' title='S_n' class='latex' /> in the tensor (or pointwise) product of <img src='http://l.wordpress.com/latex.php?latex=%5Cchi%5E%5Cmu&amp;bg=ffffff&amp;fg=000000&amp;s=0' alt='\chi^\mu' title='\chi^\mu' class='latex' /> and <img src='http://l.wordpress.com/latex.php?latex=%5Cchi%5E%5Cnu&amp;bg=ffffff&amp;fg=000000&amp;s=0' alt='\chi^\nu' title='\chi^\nu' class='latex' />. Thus solid partitions are replaced by certain triples of tableaux weighted by <img src='http://l.wordpress.com/latex.php?latex=g_%7B%5Clambda%2C%5Cmu%2C%5Cnu%7D&amp;bg=ffffff&amp;fg=000000&amp;s=0' alt='g_{\lambda,\mu,\nu}' title='g_{\lambda,\mu,\nu}' class='latex' />. This is probably too subtle for most people&#8217;s taste, especially since we don&#8217;t end up with any kind of solid partition. However, it is a rather natural extension of the elegant proof of Bender and Knuth and suggests why solid partitions may remain forever intractable.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Amir Ban on Deep Junior by Gil Kalai</title>
		<link>http://gilkalai.wordpress.com/2008/06/25/amir-ban-on-deep-junior/#comment-199</link>
		<dc:creator>Gil Kalai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amir lectured about computer chess last Friday, and the lecture described several issues not discussed in the post, and raised several interesting questions. The progress in computer-chess programs reflects several developments:

1) Algorithmic ideas that allow to do the same things quicker. (Especially notable are the "alpha and beta cuts" introduced in the 60s and described in the lecture.)

2) Better hardware (and possibly also better algorithms) which allow to evaluate more positions per second. Deep Blue was able to evaluate several millions positions per second. Junior is able to evaluate a few hundred thousands positions per second.

3) Methods to evaluate a position. Amir described only a fairly basic method and did not describe how modern position-evaluation takes place.

4) Heuristics in climbing the trees of possibilities. According to the lecture these heuristics enabled computer chess programs to become "tactical wizards". Among the heuristics, regarding a move and a forced reply as a single move, adding the illegal possibility of not making a move as part of the analysis, and more.

Ban noted the emergent sense of "intelligence' based on much computational power and a few successful heuristics.

5) Improvements in openings and in end games.

Among the questions asked: "Q: Does the program involve opponent learning?" "A:no" (Perhaps some form of opponent independent learning is taking place.) Q: What about 'Go' 'Bridge' Poker' 'Canasta'?

Game theoretically, 'Go' is most similar to chess being a deterministic game with complete information. Programs playing Go are apparently weaker than programs for chess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amir lectured about computer chess last Friday, and the lecture described several issues not discussed in the post, and raised several interesting questions. The progress in computer-chess programs reflects several developments:</p>
<p>1) Algorithmic ideas that allow to do the same things quicker. (Especially notable are the &#8220;alpha and beta cuts&#8221; introduced in the 60s and described in the lecture.)</p>
<p>2) Better hardware (and possibly also better algorithms) which allow to evaluate more positions per second. Deep Blue was able to evaluate several millions positions per second. Junior is able to evaluate a few hundred thousands positions per second.</p>
<p>3) Methods to evaluate a position. Amir described only a fairly basic method and did not describe how modern position-evaluation takes place.</p>
<p>4) Heuristics in climbing the trees of possibilities. According to the lecture these heuristics enabled computer chess programs to become &#8220;tactical wizards&#8221;. Among the heuristics, regarding a move and a forced reply as a single move, adding the illegal possibility of not making a move as part of the analysis, and more.</p>
<p>Ban noted the emergent sense of &#8220;intelligence&#8217; based on much computational power and a few successful heuristics.</p>
<p>5) Improvements in openings and in end games.</p>
<p>Among the questions asked: &#8220;Q: Does the program involve opponent learning?&#8221; &#8220;A:no&#8221; (Perhaps some form of opponent independent learning is taking place.) Q: What about &#8216;Go&#8217; &#8216;Bridge&#8217; Poker&#8217; &#8216;Canasta&#8217;?</p>
<p>Game theoretically, &#8216;Go&#8217; is most similar to chess being a deterministic game with complete information. Programs playing Go are apparently weaker than programs for chess.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Vos Post</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems clear that, in the 24-cell exercise, that the beautiful self-dual 4-polytope has 24 octahedral facets. Hence  f_0 = f_3 = 24. Further,  f_1 = f_2 =96. Then f_{02} = 288, and f_{03}=192.  Anything left to compute?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems clear that, in the 24-cell exercise, that the beautiful self-dual 4-polytope has 24 octahedral facets. Hence  f_0 = f_3 = 24. Further,  f_1 = f_2 =96. Then f_{02} = 288, and f_{03}=192.  Anything left to compute?</p>
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